After a bit of the usual initial response by the usual initial responder, it becomes clear. "Fundamentalists hate CCM", says the moderator. Note how he carefully leaves the word "industry" out. A very clear statement.

For one, it is another confirmation that indeed the Christafari Cult is to be seen as active in the Christian Industrial Complex. And that they consider fundamentalists "haters". The word "hate" and "haters" is a usual label that this moderator puts on people who consider the blasphemies of the Christian Industrial Complex for what they are: blasphemy against the Hola One of Zion, JAH RASTAFARI.

Notice also, how the original poster of the thread is attacked in it's person. It starts allready at the first reply. It is the usual reply. Everyone who will post substantial critique on the blasphemy of the Christafari Cult, will be personally attacked. His "motives" will be "questioned", if that doesn't work, a referance to "love" will be made, when that does not work an "excommunication" will occur.

Anyway....

The last posting is very interesting as it contains nothing but lies and cunning political correct language that hides the true "purpose driven lifes" of the christafarians.

Check:

Christafai is an evangelical Protistant ministry. Fundamentalists oppose protestant teaching and evangelical aproach.

"Evangelical" is to be seen as different then what it used to be. "Evangelical", in the year 2005, means, totally integrated in the Christian Industrial Complex. We have the "Purpose Driven Church", the "Seeker Sensitive Church", the "CCM or Contemporary Christian Music" Industry, and all of them work together on a global project which has come to be named "Church Growth".

When you research on the Internet, just who these so-called "fundamentalists" and the socalled "evangicals" are, and what the critique on this "evangelical movement" is, it is easy to see how the "fundamentalists" simply ask:

IS THE KINGDOM OF YESUS KRISTOS AN "INDUSTRY"?  
IS HIS MESSAGE OF SALVATION A "CULTURE" FOR "FANS" TO "GET HOOKED" ON?  
DOES THE BIBLE COMMAND MANIPULATION?  
DOES JAH CREATE DECEIVERS?

the "Evangelical Protestant" identity of this christafari cult is more clear, when you see the connections. A few of the organizations that have some connection with this cult are:

- TBN or the Trinity Broadcasting Network which is the home of false prophets and false teachers such as Benny Hinn who "prophesied" that "god" would kill Fidel Castro in the 1990's. Today, in 2005, the TBN is still going strong.

- CCM or the "Christian Contemporary Music". It's a three letter word which in Christian circles is easily recognized as the Chriostian Music Industry. This CCM in itself is part of a bigger industry, the Christian Industrial Complex.

Christafari is not intolerent of other beliefs.

I just point to some famous quotes by the founder of the christafari Cult:

Christ alone is the Lord of my life. So when I listen to a reggae song that praises Rastafari, giving worship to Selassie, I get convicted. My spirit does not agree with this. I then have to ask myself this question: if Shadrach, and his brothers refused to bow to the false god when the music played, why would they then go out and buy a CD full of this same music and listen to it daily? They wouldn't!
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But what about Christian Dub artists? Besides Christafari's one release (DUB Sound&Power) and the ever enigmatic Yabby You and Messian Dread, many have searched long and hard for a true Christian roots artist that is devoted to DUB 100% of the time. Search no longer: introducing Solomon Jabby, AKA "The Dub Revelator."
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I would ask: "Who is Christ to you?" "Who is Selassie to you?" and: "Do you smoke ganja?" How he answered those questions would determine whether or no I would label him a "gospel artist" and add him to our webstore.

The great intolerance is not related to the Truth of Yesus Kristos, as we will deal with later. the intolerance of Christafari Cult is directly related to sales and also to the manipulation of the christafarians.

Try being a Christian, a born again Christian, and smoke some herb. Try to explain to a Christafarian why you think that Jah does not condemn you for it. Then see if even this is "olerated". It's not even a different belief. But it can affect $ale$, the tru gospel of the Christian industrial Complex. Just see this following quote from Christafari and tell me that it is not related to $ale$:

I want to make this website and forum a safe place for even a six-year-old to surf. Since most, if not all of you are not saying that "everyone should smoke it," and since we would all agree that a little kid should not be toking up bong hits of some killer green, then lets close this discussion. The next Christafari album is going to be a children's project, so in addition my firm biblical stance, I trust that you will understand why I cannot endorse such illegal substances nor allow you to do so on this site.

So it is true and not true, that "Christafari is tolerant towards other believes". Just see the following quote:

Christafari has performed at secular clubs, Rastafarian festivals, reformed Mormon conferences, Lutheran, Baptist, Methodist, Evangelical, Covenant, Presbyterian, Pentecostal, Four Square, Catholic and non denominational churches (to just name a few). Our listeners come from all walks of life, various doctrinal stances, different denominations and very few of them even have dreadlockes.

In fact, when you research more closely, it is like this: when it makes money, it is okay. It is to be "tolerated". When it hurts sales, be intolerant. Even if it's Christians they "excommunicate", the SALES are holy. The "purpose" or "goal" or "vision", in the words of a moderator, "the agenda" of the Christafari Cult is holy.

This can be comprehended more when it is realized that the biggest seller in the Christian Industrial Complex at the moment is a book with the revealing title "the purpose driven life". It should speak volumes in this context of the Christafari Cult, as to where these people get their energy from. hey have a "purpose to fill"....

They simply proclaim the gospel, and if the truth is that there is only one name given to men by which we can be saved, as the bible says, it may come across as intolerant but it isn't it is speaking the truth in love.

To "proclaim the gospel", as we have seen, is to get sales in the Christian industry. They "proclaim the gospel" at the stage, on their albums et cetera. They get money from people too, who get "newsletters" in which money is "asked". This is commonly in the Christian Industrial Complex too. Give money to "missionairies" (Christafari's Mark Mohr is "officially" registered as "missionairy for the USA and the Carrib) is an industry in itself. By the way: Mark Mohr's brother (an adept in "a bad fraternity") is currently "raising money for missionairies".

One can speak the truth, even the truth about Yesus Kristos, and still not do Jah Works. This is, when one uses the truth to get money sales, for example. Let me leave it at that... Check it out, though: CLICK HERE

The purpose of evangelism isn't to convert, but to share salvation.

This is a political correct slogan. It is clear, from the bible, that to be born again is an essential part of being a christian. But because the conversion that the Christian Industrial Complex stands for is not the genuine biblical conversion which we know as "being born again through the Holy Spirit in Yesus' Name", it is to become a slave/consumer for the christian industrial complex. They sell "great witness tools" to make even more converts.

According to orthodox Christianity, one can not become saved until one becomes born again. This is also known as conversion. This is also what the Christafarian, Mark Mohr says so himself. He wants people to "become christians" because otherwise they "go to hell". Obviously, they have to hide this behind slogans like "share salvation".

Added, a Christian can not "share salvation". You get salvation for yourself. Jah gives you salvation, He gives you a new spirit. This spirit can not be divided or "shared".

So, again, you can see how "evangelize" has nothing to do with the biblical commandment to spread the Gospel, to spread the Message. A life-changing message.

But the Christian Industrial Complex has, throughout the centuries, perverted every aspect of the true Christian message until such a degree, that "to be converted" is become similar to "become a babylonian slave".

They have to hide this behind political correct slogans. For they make money recruiting consumers/slaves for the  Christian industrial Complex, discrediting the true message of salvation.

We do this because we care enough about people to want to see them saved and also because we are commanded to by the Lord. It is our duty and purpose while passing through this temporary life.

Again, when you check what exactly their definition of "god" and "christianity" is, you will be surprised.

Check them: they acknowledge that the Ethiopian Emperor is JAH Rastafari, only they say that because the Ethiopian Emperor is not "God" they do not want to worship HIM. They admittedly only "use" what they call a "term", namely the Biblical Name of the Most High for Which's Sake He Guides Us, JAH, to "make Jah worshippers into God worshippers".

Check their theology, check their statements, check their actions, check their definitions. You will see: the Christian Industrial Complex (anyone remember the SS JESUS around there? I don't think so) creating "Christians/Christafarians" which are good slaves of the system of curch and state we see described as mystery babylon in the book of the Apocalypse.

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THIS ARTICLE WAS AN ANALYSIS OF THE FOLLOWING PUBLICATIONS FROM THE CHRISTAFARI WEBSITE:

The Christafari Ministry is
1] Center      16%  [ 1 ]
2] Right      0%  [ 0 ]
3] Far Right      33%  [ 2 ]
4] Not Fundamentalist   50%  [ 3 ]

Total Votes : 6


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sososo



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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:27 pm    Post subject: Is this Ministry Fundamentalist?  

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Just wondering how the Christafari Evangelical Fundamentalist Ministry is veiwed by members on this board as being, ie. center,right, far right or not fundamental at all.

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blaminack
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:25 pm    Post subject:    

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Well we know what your opinion is.

Explain what you mean by fundamentalist. Because I don't believe that Evangelical and Fundamentalist go together.

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sososo



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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:12 am    Post subject:    

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Yes in my opinion the christafari ministry fits the definitions as does the CCM industry.

no opinion?

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blaminack
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:45 am    Post subject:    

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You totally nailed the Evangelical deal, but haven't you read the Articles that the real fundamentalist have written about Christafari?

The CCM in general is hated by the real Fundamentalists.

So I really just find your efforts in this thread as just merely trying to attach a negative title to them.

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Jah Pickney
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:01 am    Post subject:    

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Christafai is an evangelical Protistant ministry. Fundamentalists oppose protestant teaching and evangelical aproach. Christafari is not intolerent of other beliefs. They simply proclaim the gospel, and if the truth is that there is only one name given to men by which we can be saved, as the bible says, it may come across as intolerant but it isn't it is speaking the truth in love.

The purpose of evangelism isn't to convert, but to share salvation. We do this because we care enough about people to want to see them saved and also because we are commanded to by the Lord. It is our duty and purpose while passing through this temporary life.
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